Exclusive Interview: DOGE Team Unfiltered

May 3, 2025, 09:00 AM PST

(PenniesToSave.com) – In an unfiltered and often humorous behind-the-scenes look, Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency (D.O.G.E.) offered Jesse Watters an exclusive glimpse into their late-night operations inside the Eisenhower Building. What unfolded was a rare exposé of bureaucratic waste, bloated agencies, and eyebrow-raising examples of taxpayer abuse. While some may see the segment as comedic relief, for the average American taxpayer, it raises serious questions about accountability, transparency, and the sheer scale of inefficiency within the federal government.

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What is DOGE and why is it making waves in Washington?

The Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, is an initiative backed by the Trump administration and led in part by tech mogul Elon Musk. While DOGE is partly satirical in tone, borrowing the name from the famous meme cryptocurrency, it tackles real government waste with serious policy implications. Its late-night meetings, insider access, and outsider mentality present a rare convergence of Silicon Valley tech culture and federal accountability reform.

For conservatives, DOGE represents the kind of swamp-draining reform Trump promised in both campaigns. For moderates and skeptics, it’s a glimpse into how the federal apparatus may operate with little oversight. Its mission is straightforward: trim the fat, expose fraud, and make federal spending more efficient. With waste and abuse across federal agencies becoming normalized, DOGE aims to make accountability go viral.

How is taxpayer money being wasted across federal agencies?

The interview revealed shocking examples of how federal agencies have spent taxpayer money. From COVID relief funds being used to rent out Caesar’s Palace and entire sports stadiums to untraceable grants and lavish travel expenses, the scale of mismanagement was staggering. Much of the money had no receipt trail, and in some cases, agencies required no documentation for massive disbursements.

One particularly absurd case involved a $4 billion COVID fund in the Department of Education with no oversight. Once DOGE merely asked for a receipt, even something as silly as a picture of a dog, disbursements suddenly halted. The implication is clear: agencies were likely spending money illegitimately and stopped only when asked to provide even minimal transparency.

This is not mismanagement at the margins. It is systemic. From a conservative viewpoint, it confirms long-held suspicions that bureaucracy expands for its own sake, not for public good.

What simple reform exposed billions in fraud?

Perhaps the most revealing insight was how one small change, requiring recipients to upload a receipt before accessing federal funds, dramatically halted misuse. Musk and his team emphasized that they weren’t even verifying the receipts, only requesting one. That alone was enough to stop most of the spending.

This revelation underscores how easily fraud proliferates when agencies lack basic accountability mechanisms. It also demonstrates how resistant the system is to oversight. Even the hint of transparency sends grantees scrambling. For fiscal conservatives, this is vindication that minimal regulation, intelligently applied, can prevent massive waste.

For average Americans, it raises a troubling question: how much of their hard-earned income is being funneled into a broken and dishonest system?

Are dead people really getting loans from the government?

According to DOGE, yes, and in massive numbers. The team cited a $330 million payout in SBA loans to individuals listed as over 120 years old, under 11, or even with birthdates set in the year 2165. This was not satire. These were actual federal disbursements issued to non-existent or impossible recipients.

While some of this can be chalked up to clerical errors, the sheer scale indicates fraud on a grand level. These are not isolated mistakes. They reflect a government IT system so outdated and unchecked that it can’t differentiate between living citizens and fictional identities.

This is where the interview turned serious. The cost of inaction is not theoretical. It is money being siphoned from families struggling with inflation, rising healthcare premiums, and tax burdens.

How much of your tax dollar actually reaches the intended recipient?

DOGE’s investigation into smaller federal programs found that, in some cases, only 10 to 15 cents of every taxpayer dollar reaches its final destination. The rest is eaten up by administrative overhead, subcontracting layers, and management fees. One example cited was a program meant to support alpaca farmers in Peru. Instead of flowing to the farmers, over 40 percent of the funding remained in Washington D.C., lining the pockets of bureaucrats and middlemen.

For conservatives, this reinforces the argument that foreign aid and development grants should be drastically reduced or more tightly controlled. For centrists, it raises a broader concern: even well-intentioned programs fail when the system lacks accountability.

Regardless of political leanings, the message is clear. Taxpayer dollars are not being spent as promised.

Why are obscure federal agencies resisting transparency?

The most explosive segment involved the U.S. Institute of Peace, a little-known agency that received $55 million annually. According to DOGE, the agency maintained loaded firearms on site, deleted over a terabyte of financial data upon their arrival, and had financial ties to a former Taliban member.

More troubling still was the agency’s habit of sweeping leftover funds into a private account, sidestepping congressional oversight to fund events, travel, and even private jets. This suggests not just mismanagement but active concealment, which the DOGE team plainly called a “cover-up.”

While the agency’s mission sounds noble on paper, the facts uncovered paint a picture of federal rot that is hard to ignore.

What does this say about how bloated the federal bureaucracy has become?

The founders created four federal agencies. Today, there are more than 400. That is a 100-fold expansion. The DOGE crew highlighted this statistic to illustrate how sprawling the administrative state has become. The sheer size of government today enables waste to hide in the margins.

The Trump administration has issued executive orders to reduce this footprint, targeting agencies like the Institute of Peace for elimination. While some argue that these cuts could risk losing valuable programs, DOGE’s findings raise a harder question: what exactly are taxpayers funding, and why are so many programs shrouded in secrecy?

This bureaucracy expansion feeds itself, creating inefficiencies that lead to more funding requests, not fewer.

How does this affect the average American household?

Every dollar lost to fraud, duplication, or inefficiency is a dollar not spent on roads, education, or healthcare. It is money not returned to taxpayers or applied to reducing the national debt. With inflation still affecting groceries, gas, and mortgages, the idea that federal agencies are throwing parties at Caesar’s Palace using your paycheck is infuriating to many.

For working Americans, the cost of bureaucracy is not abstract. It is felt in every withheld paycheck and every budget cut at home. Whether left, right, or independent, taxpayers want to know that their money is not being wasted.

DOGE’s work, while stylized and occasionally comedic, underscores a serious truth: without aggressive oversight, federal spending grows unchecked and becomes detached from the needs of the average American.

What happens to DOGE when power shifts in Washington?

One of the closing concerns from the interview was what happens to DOGE if Democrats return to power. The team admitted this was a long-term project and that once attention fades, waste has a way of creeping back. Their goal is to remove funding lines entirely, eliminating grants rather than just exposing their misuse. That way, future administrations cannot simply restart the programs.

The challenge will be sustaining reforms across administrations. While Democrats may argue DOGE is politically motivated, the data and cases revealed suggest the issue of waste transcends party lines. For reform to last, the culture of government spending must change at its core.

Whether or not DOGE survives beyond this administration depends on whether the public demands it.

Final Thoughts

The DOGE interview was equal parts entertaining and shocking. Underneath the sarcasm and late-night delivery was a hard-hitting exposé of systemic dysfunction across government agencies. While critics may scoff at the tone, the facts presented speak volumes. From fraudulent loans to deleted financial records and money funneled into private accounts, the implications are serious.

For the average American, this is not just political theater. It is a reminder that their tax dollars deserve better stewardship. Whether you are a skeptic or a supporter, DOGE has pulled back the curtain on how bloated, outdated, and unaccountable parts of our federal government have become.

Works Cited

Government Accountability Office. Opportunities to Reduce Fragmentation, Overlap, and Duplication and Achieve Financial Benefits. https://www.gao.gov/highrisk/overview

White House Executive Orders Archive. Reducing the Federal Government’s Size and Cost. https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders

USAspending.gov. Tracking Federal Spending to the Public. https://www.usaspending.gov

Congressional Budget Office. Budget and Economic Outlook: 2025 to 2035. https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58945